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Herman Wiebell1,2,3

ID# 24457, (1845 - 1916)
Family Chart

Parents:

FatherLorenz Wiebell
MotherLizzette Denk
Chart MembershipDescendants of Maximilian Friderich Wiemann and Anna Maria Margaretha Elisabeth Lüken
Family IndexesThe Wieman Family

Key Events:

Birth: 8 May 1845, Hesse-Darmstadt,4,5,6
Marriage: 12 Oct 1869, Hamilton Co., Ohio, Margaretha Zumstein (b. abt 1845, d. 15 Sep 1898)7,8,9
Marriage: 12 Jan 1899, Hamilton Co., Ohio, Dena Wiemann (b. Dec 1858, d. 26 Apr 1927)10,11,12
Death: 25 Oct 1916, 3150 Jefferson Ave., Cincinnati, Ohio,13,14
Burial: 28 Oct 1916, Walnut Hills Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio,15,14
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Narrative:

Herman Wiebell was born on 8 May 1845 in Hesse-DarmstadtG.4,5,6
     Herman immigrated in 1862 according to one record, and in 1868 according to another. Details of his immigration have not been found. He was naturalized before 1900.16,17
     Herman married first Margaretha Zumstein, daughter of Peter Zumstein and Juliana Loehlem, on 12 Oct 1869 in Hamilton Co., OhioG, with Rev. August Kroell officiating.7,8,9
     Herman and Margaretha appeared on the 1870 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OhioG, enumerated 10 Jun 1870, in the household of C. F. Brune, a baker, and his wife and two children. They and another young baker listed in the household appear to have been boarders.18
     Herman appeared on the 1880 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio, at 864 Vine Sheet G, enumerated 2 Jun 1880.19
     His wife died on 15 Sep 1898.20
     Herman married second Dena Wiemann, daughter of Johann Henrich Wiemann and Wilhelmina Maria Rolfinck, on 12 Jan 1899 in Hamilton Co., OhioG, with Rev. Hugo G. Eisenlohr officiating. She was the widow of Harry L. Sunderbruch.10,11,12
     Herman and Dena appeared on the 1900 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio, at 3150 Jefferson Ave. G, enumerated 5 Jun 1900, reporting they rented their home. His children by his prior marriage, Mary, Louisa, Ida, and Herman, and her children by her prior marriage, August and Harry, were listed as living with them.21
     He was a cutter, and later a designer and tailor. He retired by 1910.22,23,24,25,26
     Herman and Dena appeared on the 1910 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio, at 3150 Jefferson Ave. G, enumerated 18 Apr 1910, reporting they owned their home, free of mortgage. Her eight-year-old granddaughter, Norma Sunderbruck, daughter of her son August, as listed as living with them.27
     Herman died on 25 Oct 1916, at his home, 3150 Jefferson Ave., Cincinnati, OhioG, at age 71.13,14 He was buried on 28 Oct 1916 in Walnut Hills Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OhioG, in his own lot.15,14

Children:
     Children with Margaretha Zumstein:

  1. George Wiebell (abt 1871 - 29 May 1941)
  2. Mary G. Wiebell (Apr 1873 - 28 Jun 1941)
  3. Louis Wiebell (abt 13 Nov 1875 - 13 May 1880)
  4. Paulena Wiebell (abt 1 Apr 1878 - 13 May 1878)
  5. Louisa Wiebell (Mar 1880 - 26 Oct 1964)
  6. Ida Julia Wiebell (Mar 1882 - 14 Apr 1965)
  7. Herman Wiebell (10 May 1887 - 16 Apr 1974)

Children:
     There were no children with Dena Wiemann

Citations

  1. [S792] Restored Marriage Records, Hamilton Co. Probate Court, B26:65, Hermann Wiebell and Maggie Zumstein.
  2. [S13635] C. F. Brune household, 1870 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows name as Herman Wiebbe.
  3. [S8685] Marriage Record, Hamilton Co., Ohio, 139:76, no. 76, Herman Wiebell and Dina Sunderbruck.
  4. [S13635] C. F. Brune household, 1870 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows age 25 and state, as Hesse-Darmstadt.
  5. [S13626] Herman Wiebell household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows age 35 and place as Byan, Germany. Byan cannot be found as a city or provance, and may have meant Bayern, the German name for Bavaria.
  6. [S13625] Herman Wiebell, Certificate of Death, shows date and country, as Germany.
  7. [S792] Restored Marriage Records, Hamilton Co. Probate Court, B26:65, Hermann Wiebell and Maggie Zumstein, shows date, county, state, and officiant.
  8. [S13635] C. F. Brune household, 1870 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows month.
  9. [S13626] Herman Wiebell household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows married.
  10. [S8685] Marriage Record, Hamilton Co., Ohio, 139:76, no. 76, Herman Wiebell and Dina Sunderbruck, shows date, county, state, and officiant.
  11. [S13627] Herman Wiebell household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows married 1 year.
  12. [S13632] Herman Wiebell household, 1910 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows married 11 years.
  13. [S13625] Herman Wiebell, Certificate of Death, shows date, address, city, county, and state.
  14. [S748] Walnut Hills Cemetery (formerly known as the German Protestant Cemetery), burial records, Lot record for lot 1184, entry for Herman Wiebell, 25 Oct 1916, shows date.
  15. [S13625] Herman Wiebell, Certificate of Death, shows date and cemetery.
  16. [S13627] Herman Wiebell household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows year, as 1862, and naturalized.
  17. [S13632] Herman Wiebell household, 1910 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows year, as 1868, and naturalized.
  18. [S13635] C. F. Brune household, 1870 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  19. [S13626] Herman Wiebell household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  20. [S748] Walnut Hills Cemetery (formerly known as the German Protestant Cemetery), burial records, Lot record for lot 1184, entry for Margaret Wiebell, 18 Sep 1898, shows date.
  21. [S13627] Herman Wiebell household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  22. [S13635] C. F. Brune household, 1870 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows occupation as cutter (tailor.)
  23. [S13626] Herman Wiebell household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows occupation as cutter.
  24. [S13627] Herman Wiebell household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows occupation as clothing designer.
  25. [S13632] Herman Wiebell household, 1910 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows occupation as retired and industry as clothing buis, crossed out and own income written in.
  26. [S13625] Herman Wiebell, Certificate of Death, shows occuppation as designer, industry as cutter tailoring.
  27. [S13632] Herman Wiebell household, 1910 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.

John R. Von Seggern1,2,3

ID# 24460, (1845 - 1909)
Family Chart

Parents:

FatherHerman Von Seggern (17 Dec 1812 - 9 Jun 1884)
MotherCatharine M. Kruse (9 Jan 1818 - 11 Jul 1850)
Chart MembershipDescendants of Maximilian Friderich Wiemann and Anna Maria Margaretha Elisabeth Lüken
Family IndexesThe Wieman Family

Key Events:

Birth: 26 May 1845, Cincinnati, Ohio,4,5,6
Marriage: 30 Jan 1867, North German Lutheran Church, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio, Louisa S. Wieman (b. 11 Nov 1846, d. 9 Dec 1903)7,8,9
Marriage: 14 Feb 1906, Hamilton Co., Ohio, Anna P. Warman (b. 28 Mar 1856, d. 22 Mar 1934)10,11
Death: 10 Sep 1909, 31 East 9th St., Cincinnati, Ohio,12,13,14
Burial: 13 Sep 1909, Spring Grove Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio,15
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But the narratives are my creative work product and are copyrighted. You may copy them for your personal use, but please respect my copyright and do not republish them in any form, including copying them to your tree on Ancestry or elsewhere, unless you have obtained written permission from me.
Many of the images are also copyrighted, and may not be copied without the consent of the copyright holders.

Narrative:

John R. Von Seggern was born on 26 May 1845 in Cincinnati, OhioG.4,5,6
     His mother died on 11 Jul 1850, when John was 5 years old.16
     He appeared on the 1850 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OhioG, in the household of his parents, Herman Von Seggern and Catharine M. Kruse. She was listed even though she had died by the date the enumerator visted their home because her death was after 1 June, the official "as of" date of the census.17
     John appeared on the 1860 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OhioG, in the household of his father and stepmother, Katharina Schepmann.18
     He was a porter by 1860.19

Becoming a Lawyer --- Text Stolen from ReigelRidge.com !! ---


     He was a lawyer by the time of his marriage. He built up a good practice, specializing in the settlement of estates. He had "the confidence of the older class of our German citizens," according to one obituary. Another described him as one of the best known attorneys in the city.20,21,22,23
     John married first Louisa S. Wieman, daughter of Johann Henrich Wiemann and Wilhelmina Maria Rolfinck, on 30 Jan 1867 in North German Lutheran Church, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OhioG.7,8,9
     John and Louisa were lived with her parents, at 102 Gest St., CincinnatiG, after they married. But they are not listed with the family in the 1870 census, and have not been found elsewhere.24 They moved to 97 Gest St.G by 1871.25

Becoming a Cincinnati City Councilman --- Text Stolen from ReigelRidge.com !! ---


     John ran for a seat on the Board of Councilmen from the 20th ward of Cincinnati in the election held 1 Apr 1872. He ran as a Republican and was defeated by his Democratic opponent E. M. Williams, receiving 504 votes compared to 591, in a race where the Democrats swept nearly every office.26
     He ran again the following year, and on 7 Apr 1873 was elected to a two-year term on the Board of Councilmen. He soon became an active member. In Mar 1874 he introduced a number of resolutions, including one the resulted in a joint committee to investigate press reports of various irregularities in city government. He was re-elected in 1875 and in 1877, serving until spring of 1879.27,28,29,30
     John and Louisa moved to 347 Richmond St.G about 1875.31 They appeared on the 1880 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio, at 347 Richmond St. G, enumerated 4 Jun 1880. Their children Harry and Mary were listed as living with them.32

Becoming an Ohio State Senator --- Text Stolen from ReigelRidge.com !! ---


     John was elected as an Ohio state senator in Nov 1891. While in office he sponsored a bill that created the Insolvency Court of Cincinnati.33,34,35
     When his Senate term expired in 1894 he ran for Judge of the new Insolvency Court, but to the surprise of many observers was defeated by Judge Aaron McNeill. His defeat was attributed by some to an unusual public letter by Republican boss George B. Cox supporting him, which alienated some voters. Others blamed careless drafting of the legislation creating the new court that John had sponsored which specified the election was to be a week later than the regular election, requiring a special election. The Republicans and done well in the regular election the week before.36,37
     John and Louisa appeared on the 1900 Federal Census of Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio, at 925 Richmond St. G, enumerated 4 Jun 1900, reporting they owned their home, free of mortgage. Kate Wesseler, a servant, was also listed as living in the household.38
     His wife died on 9 Dec 1903 in 925 Richmond, Cincinnati, OhioG.39
     John moved to the home of his daughter Mary and her husband, at 249 HoseaG, after the death of his wife.40,41
     John married second Anna P. Warman, daughter of John B. Warman and Elizabeth Hackman, on 14 Feb 1906 in Hamilton Co., OhioG, with Rev. H. Haefuer officiating.10,11
     John died on 10 Sep 1909, at age 64, at the home of his wife's mother, 31 East 9th St., Cincinnati, OhioG, where he was taken after he was stricken at his office.12,13,14 He was buried on 13 Sep 1909 in Spring Grove Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OhioG.15

Children:
     Children with Louisa S. Wieman:

  1. Harry H. Von Seggern+ (19 May 1868 - 18 Jun 1957)
  2. Mary C. Von Seggern+ (18 Dec 1869 - 24 Feb 1953)

Children:
     There were no children with Anna P. Warman

Citations

  1. [S13573] Hermann Von Segger household, 1850 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows name as John Von Segger.
  2. [S13393] Hamilton County Marriage Index 1808-1884, online, record for Johan R. VonSeggern and Louisa Wiemann, citing North German Lutheran Church records, at Cincinnati and Hamilton County Public Library.
  3. [S751] Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum, online burial records, record for John R. Von Seggern, burial card.
  4. [S13573] Hermann Von Segger household, 1850 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows age 5 and state.
  5. [S13547] John Vonsegger household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows month, year, age 55, and state.
  6. [S751] Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum, online burial records, record for John R. Von Seggern, burial card, shows date, city, and state.
  7. [S13393] Hamilton County Marriage Index 1808-1884, online, record for Johan R. VonSeggern and Louisa Wiemann, citing North German Lutheran Church records, at Cincinnati and Hamilton County Public Library, shows date.
  8. [S13546] J. R. Von Seggern household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows married.
  9. [S13547] John Vonsegger household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows married 33 years.
  10. [S8685] Marriage Record, Hamilton Co., Ohio, 187:109, no. 109, John R. Von Seggern and Anna P. Worman, shows date, county, state, and officiant.
  11. [S13582] "Death of John R. Von Seggern," shows his second wife as Miss Worman.
  12. [S13570] John R. Von Seggern obituary, The Cincinnati Enquirer, shows died last night, home of wife's mother, and address.
  13. [S751] Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum, online burial records, record for John R. Von Seggern, burial card, shows date and address.
  14. [S10770] "Ohio Death Index, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2007," FamilySearch.org, record for John R. Vanseggern, shows date, county, and state.
  15. [S751] Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum, online burial records, record for John R. Von Seggern, burial card,, shows date.
  16. [S500] Findagrave.com, online, memorial # 113230433, Catharina M. Kruse von Seggern, shows date and includes tombstone photo showing same.
  17. [S13573] Hermann Von Segger household, 1850 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  18. [S13574] Herm von Seggern household, 1860 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  19. [S13574] Herm von Seggern household, 1860 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows occupation as porter.
  20. [S8685] Marriage Record, Hamilton Co., Ohio, 187:109, no. 109, John R. Von Seggern and Anna P. Worman, shows occupation as attorney at law.
  21. [S13546] J. R. Von Seggern household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio, shows occupation as lawyer.
  22. [S13582] "Death of John R. Von Seggern," shows he had a good practice, especially settling estates, and confidence of older Germans.
  23. [S13570] John R. Von Seggern obituary, The Cincinnati Enquirer, shows one of best known attorneys in city.
  24. [S10413] William's Cincinnati Directory, 1867, pg 473, and 1869, pg 570, shos them at 102 Gest St.
  25. [S10413] William's Cincinnati Directory, 1871, pg 698.
  26. [S13575] "The Election," The Cincinnati Enquirer, 2 Apr 1872.
  27. [S13580] "The Election," The Cincinnati Enquirer, 4 Apr 1878, shows him continuing a year from prior election.
  28. [S13577] "Councilmen's Field Day," The Cincinnati Enquirer, 7 Mar 1874.
  29. [S13576] "The New Boards," The Cincinnati Enquirer, 9 Apr 1873, shows he had been elected to a two year term the prior Monday.
  30. [S13570] John R. Von Seggern obituary, The Cincinnati Enquirer, shows him as a powerful figure in local politics 30 years before.
  31. [S10413] William's Cincinnati Directory, 1875, pg 938.
  32. [S13546] J. R. Von Seggern household, 1880 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  33. [S13579] "It's Settled," The Cincinnati Post, 4 Nov 1891, shows him as one of three senators elected.
  34. [S13570] John R. Von Seggern obituary, The Cincinnati Enquirer, shows elected senator 12 years before, fathered bill.
  35. [S13582] "Death of John R. Von Seggern," shows elected and introduced court bill.
  36. [S13581] "What They Think," The Cincinnati Post, 14 Nov 1894.
  37. [S13570] John R. Von Seggern obituary, The Cincinnati Enquirer, shows ran for judgeship after Senate term and narrowly defeated.
  38. [S13547] John Vonsegger household, 1900 U.S. Census, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
  39. [S751] Spring Grove Cemetery and Arboretum, online burial records, record for Lousia S. Von Seggern, burial card, shows date and address.
  40. [S8685] Marriage Record, Hamilton Co., Ohio, 187:109, no. 109, John R. Von Seggern and Anna P. Worman, shows residence as Hosea Ave.
  41. [S10413] William's Cincinnati Directory, 1905, pg 1736, shows residence address.

 

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